Keeping up with Ron?

CPR back then

OK really just artificial respiration...the method you described Ed is the "Holger-Nielson" method of AR. When I started in '79 they still taught it along with Sylvester Broach and mouth-to-mouth. The bag-valve-mask really wasn't discussed that much. I used mtm once and that was my last time with that method...BVM from then on.
 
Thanks Ed my exhaust guy said the same thing! He remembered running duals on the hearse and they had to do the same thing, run both pipes down one side & then get aggressive with the tailpipes going over the axle & around the gas tank. His main concern is the filler neck... and we all know how crazy these filler necks are & that the exhaust passes over it & not under. He knows i'm anal too about exposed pipes & keeping them even where they exit. I want them to tip downward & out @ the rear quarter panels... kinda like the 69 Nova SS did that way they look cool but don't run a risk of dragging or hitting vs. out the back & everything is tucked up along the frame except where it exits. It's supposed to be done when I get off work Tuesday @ 2pm... can't wait!

After seeing the pictures Tony posted, something else makes sense now. Then vs. now it's obvious the Superior spent some time stored outside due to condition. While putting on the wheels I checked the inside of the bumpers because they are notorious for holding debris that will rot out the bumpers from the inside. The rear bumper was FULL of a muddy mixture of pine needles & wet filth, and what's left of the front bumper ends was the same way. Such a shame to think this car sat outside neglected at some point, but now it's getting the love & care it deserves.
 
No doubt it will get the love and care it deserves Dwayne, I can attest you can eat off any portion of Dwaynes cars on any given day. Dwayne's cars are always in primo shape.
 
Picked up the ambulance first thing this morning. Man does it sound great & the brakes perform excellent now! Feels good to have it home & 5 full days to work on it.

Chief Ron I have a question... what are the laws in Ohio concerning retired emergency vehicles like this? The reason this is asked is because when leaving the muffler shop, the local fuzz drove by real REAL slow & stared alot. Shot over to O'rielly's auto parts & he went by again, turned around, & passed by yet again (told ya i'm a cop magnet). Anyway, do I have to cover the ambulance signs, run "OUT OF SERVICE" magnetic signs, or is it legal to drive it as-is? I'm thinking of having the magnetic signs made just in case
 
Here Ya Go Dwayne

From the Ohio Revised Code:
4513.21 Horns, sirens, and warning devices:
(A) Every motor vehicle or trackless trolley when operated upon a highway shall be equipped with a horn which is in good working order and capable of emitting sound audible, under normal conditions, from a distance of not less than two hundred feet.
No motor vehicle or trackless trolley shall be equipped with, nor shall any person use upon a vehicle, any siren, whistle or bell. Any vehicle may be equipped with a theft alarm signal device which shall be so arranged that it cannot be used as an ordinary warning signal. Every emergency vehicle shall be equipped witha siren, whistle or bell capable of emitting sound audible under normal conditions from a distance of not less than five hundred feet and of a type approved by the director of public safety. Such equipment shall not be used except when such vehicle is operated in response to an emergency call or is in the immediate pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law, in which case the driver of the emergency vehicle shall sound such equipment when it is necessary to warn pedestrians and other drivers of the approach thereof.
(B) Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in section 4513.99
This is a minor misdemeanor on the first offense and increases with subsequent offenses.

4513.17 Number of lights permitted; direction of beam; flashing, oscillating or rotating lights.

(C) Flashing lights are prohibited on motor vehicles, except as a means for indicating a right or left turn, or in the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring unusual car in approaching, or overtaking and passing. This prohibition does not apply to emergency vehicles, road service vehicles servicing or towing a disabled vehicle, traffic line stripers, snow plows, rural mail delivery vehicles, vehicles as provided in section 4513.182 of the Revised Code, dept. of transportation maintenance vehicles, funeral hearses, funeral escort vehicles, and similar equipment operated by the department or local authorities, which shall be equipped with and display when used on a street or highway for the special purpose necessitating such lights, a flashing, oscillating, or rotating amber light, but shall not display a flashing, oscillating, or rotating light of any other color, nor to vehicles or machinery permitted by section 4513.11 of the Revised Code to have a flashing red light.

So that being said, you own a vintage ambulance with working red lights, how are you any different than the guy who owns a vintage fire truck, or a Mayberry replica car, or a restored police cruiser? You are not any different but the law does not provide for us. But I believe it is a affirmative defense if the local fuzz wants to get in your business. And I will avail myself to come testify in your defense if you do get a ticket for it. It is one thing if you abuse the privilege, if you are caught on the street running hot they have a right to throw the book at you, even if you think you may have a legitimate reason, say you are running a friend to the hospital. In your mind it is an emergency but you are not a bona fide public safety vehicle or a person with pedigree to do so like a volunteer fire or rescue person or police officer, so they could still write you. But if you are a law abiding person who happens to own a vintage emergency vehicle they should leave you alone. :3_7_11v:
 
Thank you Ron! I'm mainly concerned with the lettering on the doors. It's obvious it's retired & has "historical vehicle" plates, but it just made me nervous today with the full lettering on it & the cops lurking about, gawking. Confrontation won't be until OSP sees it on the road, I have complete faith in them. All the flashing lights, beacon, spotlights, & siren work but those will only be used when appropriate like in a parade... or if you provoke me with yours at a meet!
 
Dwayne Brooks said:
...The reason this is asked is because when leaving the muffler shop, the local fuzz drove by real REAL slow & stared alot. Shot over to O'rielly's auto parts & he went by again, turned around, & passed by yet again (told ya i'm a cop magnet). ..
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Maybe they were gawking, like Ron. Not because they want to give you a ticket, but because they were interested. I've gotten a lot of "thumbs-up"'s from the police and troopers when I've driven my ambulances! :specool:
 
provoke???

Provoke? Is that anything like poking a bear with a stick? I don't think it would take much 'provoking' if we were at a PCS meet or such somewhere.
If the thumpy radio guys can have a 'sound off' with their radio systems we should be able to have a little noise too. I know, to us it ain't noise.
If you have the historical tags on it I would think you are exempt of some of the normal restrictions. They don't make us ad catalytic converters to our old rides...yet.
Glad you got brakes now. That dragging your feet stuff is not fun.
Mike
 
the one trick that may get you buy is to remove the fuse for the lights and siren. easy enough to put back in anytime you want but if your stopped they are not operable. how ever you'll have to pay a little more money to someone else to take care of the paranoia or feeling of persecution you have regarding authority figures. you could move to South Dakota were they state display a red light forward. in this state display means turned on.
 
My paranoia is justified Ed... although I have absolutely no criminal record ever, working 2nd shift I get off work when all the bars are closing and the state troopers think everyone on the road at that time is either a drunk or a crackhead.
Example: Worked a 10 hour shift & got off work @ 2am, driving home in my filthy work uniform, safety glasses still on my head, and get pulled over. Trooper says i'm doing 73 in a 55 zone, asks questions & when they're answered he's ignoring me because he's shining his flashlight in the ashtray, seat, floorboard, etc. looking for whatever he thinks he's gonna find and asks how much i've been drinking... yet he saw me just leave the industrial park & followed. He won't show me the radar because I know he made it all up, yet i'm cited for excessive speed of 73 in a 55. I contested it & a hearing was set. The trooper attended the hearing, and I denied changing my plea to guilty. The hearing proceeded and the judge asked the trooper to play his in-car camera footage to "clear all this up once and for all"... and the footage was conveniently lost. Judge dismissed the case due to a lack of evidence.

Example: Same senario... get off work & head into town in my lifted Dodge Ram with 36" tires and a stock 318, stop at Speedway & buy a pack of smokes, exit the store & THREE cops have my truck surrounded & they're hiding behind their doors as if i'd robbed the place! One of them says they had a witness say i've been "tearing up & down through town doing burnouts with your headlights off!" I laughed & offered the keys. I said "If that truck will do a burnout with all that lift & a turd stock 318 i'll kiss your foot" and the other officers laughed at him. Things calmed down from there but they were getting ready to take me down for nothing.

As I said, no criminal record for anything other than a speeding ticket & cracked windshield since 1987 and this is what we have to deal with around here Ed. No joke. It may seem like paranoia but it is justified. I probably don't look like much to you guys or authority figures but long hair, tats, and a couple earrings don't make a guy a bad person. I hope these examples clear the air, because I think of ALL of you as my friends & don't want you thinking i'm someone who is always in trouble with the law & a background to go with it. I'm just trying to avoid yet another run-in with the law, even though it works out for the best in the long run it's still embarassing standing there being made a spectacle of.

We think alot alike Ed! Found the power circut for the main flasher unit & pull it when driving now... just in case :)
 
It is hard for me to look at it from the "cop viewpoint" for several reasons. One I have never been a traffic nazi to begin with, two I am into vintage cars, and three I collect vintage ambulances, so I am prejudiced. I also tend to sometimes be unpopular with my folks when I pull them in my office and void their ticket when I think it was assinine to issue one in the first place. So that said, I do agree with Steve, I think they may have a natural curiousity about this fine old emergency vehicle. Dwayne you will find it is going to be a lot different driving the ambulance around as opposed to the hearse. For one you will get a lot of thumbs up from people nearly side swiping you trying to check out your ride. When you are driving a hearse people turn up their nose and look at you like your some kind of freak!. Case in point, couple weeks ago we went down to Sugar Creek for a cruise in. We took the 76 Cadillac M-M combo which is brown, but as everybody knows my cars are always in ambulance mode so my suction cupped AMBULANCE grills were in the windows. Driving in I actually heard people start to go "ewww, Oh it's and ambulance, cool!" Amazing! If it was a hearse it was creepy, if it was an ambulance it was cool. PEOPLE IT IS THE SAME FREAKIN CAR! :14_6_20: People never fail to amaze me with their stupidity.
 
I to got pulled over

I was driving in a nearby city and was pulled over. When he came up to me he said; "I hope you don't mind but I just had to have a closer look!" By the time he was finished he had called in three other cars that "just had to have a closer look" I was happy to do so and I just wonder what all the cars passing us were thinking. One ambulance and four police cars on the side of the road, oh yea there was also a repair truck that had stopped as well.
 
Ron Devies said:
It is hard for me to look at it from the "cop viewpoint" for several reasons. One I have never been a traffic nazi to begin with, two I am into vintage cars, and three I collect vintage ambulances, so I am prejudiced. I also tend to sometimes be unpopular with my folks when I pull them in my office and void their ticket when I think it was assinine to issue one in the first place. So that said, I do agree with Steve, I think they may have a natural curiousity about this fine old emergency vehicle. Dwayne you will find it is going to be a lot different driving the ambulance around as opposed to the hearse. For one you will get a lot of thumbs up from people nearly side swiping you trying to check out your ride. When you are driving a hearse people turn up their nose and look at you like your some kind of freak!. Case in point, couple weeks ago we went down to Sugar Creek for a cruise in. We took the 76 Cadillac M-M combo which is brown, but as everybody knows my cars are always in ambulance mode so my suction cupped AMBULANCE grills were in the windows. Driving in I actually heard people start to go "ewww, Oh it's and ambulance, cool!" Amazing! If it was a hearse it was creepy, if it was an ambulance it was cool. PEOPLE IT IS THE SAME FREAKIN CAR! :14_6_20: People never fail to amaze me with their stupidity.
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Sad to say that Ron is right that everyone don't appreciate a hearse as much as some of us die hard guys do. Unless the hearse is really old people just think u are weird but driving an ambulance is somewhat better but what I see alot is the famous phrase "oh ghost busters car". I really hate when they do that. Most people that know me locally don't think anything about me driving a hearse around being I have done so for 31 years. I started home last week and was driving a hearse off car lot and as usually was loving the power of the LT1 and was passing alot of people and my phone rang and girl that used to work for me was on line and said: I was just blowed off the road by a hearse and figured it was you: I laughed as she was driving a GT mustang and I left her in the dust.
 
Very, very true guys about the hearse vs. ambulance senario! I've been ran down by the local police more than once in the hearse. Mostly just tailing it for a while running the tags. Only one talked about it, I pulled into the hardware store & he pulled in right behind. I asked him if there was some sort of problem & he said it peaked his curiousity when he saw historical plates on "way too new of a car" and to his surprise it's 30 years old! He looked it over good & complimented on it and said he would have never guessed it was so old, said "It looks as nice as the ones at Muntz-Pristill" which I took as a compliment because they have a beautiful funeral home & fleet.
 
having worked second shift most of my VA working life I never got pulled over going home. that is unless I swapped trucks or it was Friday or saturday night and a new officer was on. yes they do profile. one or two males in a pickup just after midnight saturday, they will find any excuse to pull you over. when I got them stuck to me like a shark on a blood trail I always touched the center line or failed to signal . lets get this over with so I don't have to do this every night self defence thing. but I have never once received a ticket other then a warning. took once then new guy found out I was not drinking and just going home from work. they always left me go after that. till I changed trucks or a new officer came on the force. I always figured it as part of the price we pay for collection tax revenue off the sale of liquor. booze is a money maker all round with out it there would be a whole lot of jobs gone. that would include mine as babysitter in a drunk ward in a ETOH recovery hospital. it was just one more time of yes sir, no sir, thank you sir, will do sir. start the truck and mutter f-ing newbie. go home and go to bed. getting pulled over beats getting run over by a drunk and letting a whole of lot of other people make money off booze. it's the drunks and there lawyers probable cause that have screwed up the system. had you been able to just got pulled over and asked have you been drinking. there would not have been a trumped up charge filed. but don't be bull headed with the law they way it is written in Ohio. pull the fuse keep it in the glove box and they your under the law. work to change it or add HX licence plates as a exemption don't just complain about it.
 
Dwayne Brooks said:
Very, very true guys about the hearse vs. ambulance senario! I've been ran down by the local police more than once in the hearse. Mostly just tailing it for a while running the tags. Only one talked about it, I pulled into the hardware store & he pulled in right behind. I asked him if there was some sort of problem & he said it peaked his curiousity when he saw historical plates on "way too new of a car" and to his surprise it's 30 years old! He looked it over good & complimented on it and said he would have never guessed it was so old, said "It looks as nice as the ones at Muntz-Pristill" which I took as a compliment because they have a beautiful funeral home & fleet.
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Dwayne, I told you that was a super sharp car and I know alot of small funeral homes that would still use that car.
 
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