2013 Cadillac XTS prototype hearse unveiled in Las Vegas

The pics of the prototype on the NAFDA floor look much better than the brochure, it makes the car look way to short and too tall.
 
OMG!!! The distinctive design "skills" of Keller and Wonder strike again! That thing is just plain awful. Almost as fugly as their horrid Lincolns. No balance. No grace of line. No road presence and certainly no prestige to be seen in this creation. Here's another firm that has absolutely no styling finesse or leadership. I always thought Federal and their products were a joke and now....once again....they've gone and proven it. I would expect that these are equipped with rear compartments trimmed in the typically overdone Eagle/Federal Gypsy courtesan boudoir fashion. Absolutely horrid. With moonroofs no less...silly. Now that we've seen how badly both Eagle and Federal have muffed the new Cadillacs, I can't wait to see the disasters that will eminate from Lima bearing the iconic Superior and S&S nameplates. They'll probably be just as bad (if not worse) and badge engineered uglies at that. Hey guys...hire a stylist that knows these vehicles and has some taste and talent.
 
Keith Snyder said:
Hey guys...hire a stylist that knows these vehicles and has some taste and talent.
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You have to remember no one cares about style anymore. That is evident in ALL the new cars being produced today. Remember, the younger generations are being brought up hearing cars are bad, and should only be used to go from one place to another if necssary. I know alot of young people that are not even interested in cars or even getting their license, they could care less. If they dont care, why should the manufactures.
 
Keith Snyder said:
OMG!!! The distinctive design "skills" of Keller and Wonder strike again! That thing is just plain awful. Almost as fugly as their horrid Lincolns. No balance. No grace of line. No road presence and certainly no prestige to be seen in this creation. Here's another firm that has absolutely no styling finesse or leadership. I always thought Federal and their products were a joke and now....once again....they've gone and proven it. I would expect that these are equipped with rear compartments trimmed in the typically overdone Eagle/Federal Gypsy courtesan boudoir fashion. Absolutely horrid. With moonroofs no less...silly. Now that we've seen how badly both Eagle and Federal have muffed the new Cadillacs, I can't wait to see the disasters that will eminate from Lima bearing the iconic Superior and S&S nameplates. They'll probably be just as bad (if not worse) and badge engineered uglies at that. Hey guys...hire a stylist that knows these vehicles and has some taste and talent.
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Maybe YOU should go over to Accubuilt and apply for a job as a stylist??????
 
I went to our local Cadillac dealer yesterday to check out the new Cadillac. They had ONE in stock and it was not for sale, just to show. They said orders are expected to take seven months for delivery!!! Overall, the car looked small. When I said it looks European, the salesman said, "Yeah, it looks like a Volkswagen". He was right, it looks like a vw Passet with special taillights. While it is a nice looking, sexy car, it doesn't look like what my image of a Cadillac should be. It has several toys, including a side sensor that vibrates your left or right butt check to tell you what side of the car has a close object. (That might be fun in a construction zone with the orange cones all over!)
 
looks like either someone kicked it in the butt or they ran out of money I don't know which. I know it's like a eraser that's been used to much!!
 
I came to the forum to see what you all thought, after I found the new Cadillac commercial chassis brochure on the GM Fleet web page. I suppose the modern cars reflect the loss of formality in modern life: no tuxedos, no formal dining rooms, now it's all blue jeans (prewashed, faded, and with holes already worn in them!) and dens with shag carpeting and floppy furniture.
A sporty car just does not seem to make a good basis for a funeral coach or limousine (which, after all, are formal cars ('carriages')).
Wonder what the chances are for a coachbuilder to restyle a commercial chassis, with new front sheetmetal and grill? Heck, most of the exterior of the coach is new sheetmetal anyway. With modern materials and methods, it should be easier and less costly than it once was, and one could regain more control over the styling ( or at least one could HAVE some styling...).
By the way: GM is offering a Chevrolet Caprice rear wheel drive car for police use only. It will not be sold to the public, but there is a "detective" model which looks like a regular sedan, more or less. Police departments in my area are starting to buy them but I have not seen one in person as yet.
 
"Well, here is the S&S and Superior offering"

Thanks Jeremy for posting this image. Well, looks like Keller & Wonder have designed a new type of door stop! That's terrible. Even worse that the crap from Federal and Eagle. We can call this one the "weggie". Never in the history of the professional car has there been such a barrage of completely ugly vehicles. It's unforgivable. Especially when the base car offers such possibilities for good, clean, well-balanced designs. The design stylings of Keller & Wonder prevail....unfortunately for all. This has completely ruined my faith in Accubuilt as well as my appetite for tonight's dinner.
 
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I think the style will grow on all of us. It seems like yesterday the 2000 s were introduced with similar acclaim that we have seen in these posts. We purchased a coach and limo which were both in the first 10 produced! The new style is evident in all current car models! While I love the style of the 50s and 60s... I don't want to start sounding like my grandpa ... Wishing for the good ole days! The good ole days that 3 inch white walls had to be scrubbed after every funeral .... No air conditioning , powere steering or power brakes, and a wash bay with hose... No water softeners... You get my drift! Lol
 
I was going to post a clip from Blazing Saddles that sums up my response, but since this is a family friendly board, I will pass.

But, as we bash the latest offerings from Cadillac and the "Master Coachbuilders", just think about the response to the 1959 Cadillac when it debuted. I'm sure there was a collective shock heard round the coachbuilding world when the designers saw the fins and bullets.

Finally, just think what we will be seeing in 20 years, especially since the other topic of conversation is the increase in cremation and the decrease in the need for a funeral coach.
 
To my mindset,these new coaches look as sleek as the cars and limos.I always felt that the bold presence of a coach stood out,it was the centrepiece of the procession,and commanded a sense of respect for its passenger,I am from a smaller city where the average procession was 10 miles round trip,so fuel economy and aerodynamics never entered into the discussion..But you saw the coach,you knew what it was,and to some of us you marvelled at its impressiveness.:my2cents:
 
Jonathan Murphy said:
But, as we bash the latest offerings from Cadillac and the "Master Coachbuilders", just think about the response to the 1959 Cadillac when it debuted. I'm sure there was a collective shock heard round the coachbuilding world when the designers saw the fins and bullets.
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Interesting thought. However statistics tell the story here. In 1958, Cadillac delivered 1,915 commercial chassis to the three coachbuilders. In 1959 they provided 2,102 to the professional car makers. In 1960 the number of these purpose-built chassis shipped to the three coachmakers amounted to 2,160. These figures clearly illustrate that - despite the rocket-ship fins and rather bizzare styling of the 1959 Cadillac - the acceptance of these vehicles actually increased over those of 1958. Let's face it, the 1959 professional cars from Superior, S&S and Miller-Meteor were all well-balanced and attractive offerings designed by people who knew what they were doing. That's more than we can say about anything we've seen this far from Eagle, federal or Accubuilt.
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It seems that the Bennett coach got a few favorable reviews (knowing that a major change had to occur) but several thought the addition of drapes would help. It might look to station wagoney without drapes...
 
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