Mystery Car Thread
- Thread starter Bill Marsh
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Keith Snyder
PCS Member
The chassis appears to be a that of a Horch but, right now, that coachwork is a mystery to me.
Reminds me of an uglier version of the already ugly Allard.
Is this a procar?
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Darren Bedford
PCS Member
Uh Oh ! Another one Patrick will want !
Only kidding, even Patrick wouldn't want the !
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you dig it, you better get your eyes checked !
Kidding aside, I still do not see its charm... at all !
Darren
Only kidding, even Patrick wouldn't want the !
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you dig it, you better get your eyes checked !
Kidding aside, I still do not see its charm... at all !
Darren
I suspect this was updated as it seems to have turn blinkers. Perhaps the greenhouse was added, but the basic chassis looks original to the marque.
The original company was in operation from 1901 to 1932 when it merged with three other companies.
OOOO
The scarves with this company logo are major collectables now and were highly prized by SS officers.
They made a 6 liter v12.
a 1937 automobile sold in original, unrestored, untouched condition for $299,000 in 2006.
I must need to get my eyes examined, because I like the way it looks! Who is Patrick? I want to meet him. We both like ugly cars!
The original company was in operation from 1901 to 1932 when it merged with three other companies.
OOOO
The scarves with this company logo are major collectables now and were highly prized by SS officers.
They made a 6 liter v12.
a 1937 automobile sold in original, unrestored, untouched condition for $299,000 in 2006.
I must need to get my eyes examined, because I like the way it looks! Who is Patrick? I want to meet him. We both like ugly cars!
The 4 car companies that make up the current Audi, are Audi, DKW, Horch and Wanderer. I have no idea who made this car, but if I had to take a guess, I would say DKW or Horch..
Is it a hearse, ambulance, limousine, or _____?
It appears to have a front mount fire pump.
That makes three of us.
John Royark JR
PCS Member
Patrick Martin is a PCS member that has a lot of oddball professional cars, almost all of the ones in his collection are unique looking one or two off builds, that's why he was mentioned as one who would want this.
It looks like hard suction hose in back, as well. It's a fire truck (car). Might have a secondary use, but that back end is more likely a hose bed than a patient compartment.
I'd buy it in a minute, and my wife would support me in doing so! We could raise traveling tomatoes in the back.
I checked this site and can't find any of his pictures. Guess I'll pm him
I have never seen anything like one of these even when I did a few mind-altering drugs back in the 1960s
Bill,
Please answer my question: How is "this" a procar?
Steve, I am very new to procars. My first exposure to professional cars was buying Shep Martin's 1958 Eureka Flower car on November 7, 2013. I had not paid much attention to them prior to November 4th, 2013, so I am less than a month old in this facet of antique car collecting.
Ask me about 1958 Eldorados and I am on much more familiar ground.
It is my understanding that a procar is a professional car made on a commercial type chassis for use in funeral, limo, ambulance, firefighting, etc.
This Horch would seem to qualify.
Wayne Krakowski
PCS Member
Bill that home page shows a fire engine and a ambulance with the mystery car below it, appears to be a 1941 from Czechoslovakia (spelling) may be wrong need some one who reads Czech to navigate their site, if built in 1941 in the midst of the war may have been some kind of observation vehicle equipped with fire gear, just a wild guess for what may or may not be a unique vehicle
The firefighting, etc. is the incorrect part of this statement. Professional cars are used in primarily funeral and ambulance service. An example of a car used outside of these two professions, would be a limo used by a livery service. An ambulance that was used by a fire department would be considered a professional car, but a fire truck wouldn't be classed as a professional car under any circumstances. One of the common mistakes made is that people don't differentiate between the use, and the occupation, hence the thought that a car used in fire service would be a professional car, when in reality, it isn't. Since this Horch is a fire fighting vehicle, it is not a professional car. Had it had a stretcher in the rear compartment, then it would be an ambulance, and would be a professional car.
Now, to throw the question out to all of our resident experts, if it did have a stretcher in the rear, and it also has the front mounted fire fighting pump on the front, then how would you experts classify this oddity??
Thanks Paul for making that distinction. Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.Mystery Horch
This particular car started life as a 1940-1941 Horch 853 sport cabriolet in November of 1945. You have to remember that after the war, anything that was still functional was pressed into service. Having no use for a sports cabriolet, and instead needing a fire engine, the car was converted. The body design was by a company called Lepil from Rousinov near Brno, the acrylic glass roof was built by a local company. This car was converted for the Brno-Komin fire department.
I am not clear on whether the fire department still owns this unit or not, but if it were to find its way into private ownership, it would certainly be re-bodied back into a sports cabriolet, as the high value of the Horch chassis would indeed merit such a restoration.
This particular car started life as a 1940-1941 Horch 853 sport cabriolet in November of 1945. You have to remember that after the war, anything that was still functional was pressed into service. Having no use for a sports cabriolet, and instead needing a fire engine, the car was converted. The body design was by a company called Lepil from Rousinov near Brno, the acrylic glass roof was built by a local company. This car was converted for the Brno-Komin fire department.
I am not clear on whether the fire department still owns this unit or not, but if it were to find its way into private ownership, it would certainly be re-bodied back into a sports cabriolet, as the high value of the Horch chassis would indeed merit such a restoration.