Help Identify these old ambulances

[Matt Johnston]

Hi guys im wondering if you can help me out. What can you tell me about these 2 cars. They were both owned by Lower Burrell, PA. The only things I can tell you is one is a Cadillac and that we have a Superior dealer in town. I'm also curious about the lights on the Cadillac. Thanks for any help

http://www.lbvfc3.com//photos/Photos-of-Our-Past/oldsquad.jpg
http://www.lbvfc3.com//photos/Apparatus/oldambu.jpg

There are additional pictures of a Dodge Ambulance on these pages if you are interested
http://www.lbvfc3.com/fleet.htm
http://www.lbvfc3.com/past.htm

 

[John ED Renstrom]

a a glance the first car is a 50's ?? Buick most likely made by flexible

the second is a MM the top lights give it away. I'm guessing 61 built on the commercial chassis supplied by Cadillac. but there is a whole bunch of people he can tell you a lot more.

 

[Kevin M. Parkinson]

All I can offer

The second link is a 1962 Cadillac chassis.

 

[Bruce Osborne]

The First pic. is of a Buick I believe

 

[Tom Caruso Sr.]

First car

The first appears to be a Buick Roadmaster Series 70 by Flxible

 

[John ED Renstrom]

you have forced me to go look at my pictures. the first is a 50 buick chassis it's the only one with those side lines

 

[Steve Loftin]

1950 Premier
1962 Sentinel w/Safe-T-Vu corner lights

 

[Steve Lichtman]

1950 Premier
1962 Sentinel w/Safe-T-Vu corner lights

To expand on Steve's identification:
1) 1950 Flxible Buick Preimer ambulance
2) 1962 Miller-Meteor Cadillac Sentinel ambulance, and those lights are called Safe-T-Vu lights, standard for a time on Miller-Meteor ambulances.

 

[Steve Loftin]

1950 Premier
1962 Sentinel w/Safe-T-Vu corner lights

Oops...make that a 1951 Buick!

 

[Keith Snyder]

The Cadillac is a 1962 Miller-Meteor Futura ambulance. The Buick is definately a Flxible - most probably a 1951 Sterling ambulance. It could be a 1952 Sterling as well but we can't really see enough of it to properly identify it. It's impossible to tell if it has three or four fender-mounted mouse-holes - three for a Sterling and four if it's a Premier. It certainly isn't a 1950 because the 50models had the Buick "port holes" mounted on the sides of the hood.

 

[Steve Loftin]

I stand by the '51 Premier identification (check out the wheel covers and body trim), but stand corrected on the Futura. As can be seen in the M-M book, 1961 was the last year for this style to be called a Sentinel.

 

[John ED Renstrom]

you are right on the holes 51 it is as they are in the fender. missed that in my thumbnails but if you want to know for sure I have found you make a guess. that brings the people that know out of the woodwork. so know that we know its a 51 flexible Buick most likely a 4 hole as they are so far forward on the fender
the other is the 62 miller meter future. here is a example I have of each of them in a different rig. the first I took at stay central meet the #2 I don't know were. bet that 62 is miss labled let me know.

 

[Matt Johnston]

thanks guys I appreciate the help a ton, there is one final ambulance id like some help with but i dont know how much the pictures will help thanks

 

[Mike Stevens]

id these coaches

The first one is no doubt a Buick.
The second coach is a 62 Cadillac. Look at the square parking lights in the bumper. The 61 Cadillac had round parking/fog lights. Look at my avatar picture...1961 Miller-Meteor.
Mike

 

[Steve Loftin]

thanks guys I appreciate the help a ton, there is one final ambulance id like some help with but i dont know how much the pictures will help thanks

No photos showing...?

 

[Steve Lichtman]

thanks guys I appreciate the help a ton, there is one final ambulance id like some help with but i dont know how much the pictures will help thanks

Below are the photos Matt was trying to link to, not sure why they didn't work the way he did it (I tried the same thing and they didn't work, either.)

Anyway, Matt, that's a '69 Superior Cadillac Rescuer ambulance.

By the way, I own two antique ambulances from up your way - '57 DeSoto wagon from New Kensington #3, and '60 Flxible Buick from Allegheny Ludlum Steel, West Leechburg Works.

 

[John ED Renstrom]

that would be a 69 superior high top

 

[Tom Caruso Sr.]

Buick

The 49 Buicks like the two owned currently by Ansonia Rescue here in Ct, have the port holes in the fender, one of which is still undergoing restoration and the other the parts car. The windshield in the 49 was a split 2 pc as opposed to a one peice

 

[Matt Johnston]

Thanks a whole bunch guys. I really appreciate all the help. Is it safe to say that the Safe-t-vue lights on the MM are rare even though they were standard?

 

[John ED Renstrom]

will only MM used them and only for a few years so it is safe to say they would be difficult to find replacements ones. I don't think I have ever seen any for sale