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Josh Gentry

Josh Gentry

I may be out of line here,and Paul, if you feel the need to delete this, I understand. But it seems to me, that lately our friendly discussions have become not so friendly. People seem to be getting offended and irritated over small things that normally wouldn't matter. This is a website for people that share a interest in Professional Cars to come together and talk about our interests, and a way for members to communicate with other members that don't live close to them. With out this site, the PCS and our hobby, wouldn't be what it is. The PCS and this website are made up of a wonderful group of people, and I have the utmost respect for each and every one of you, and consider many of you my close friends. You guys are like family to me. On the other hand, everyone has there own opinions, and not everyone is going to agree with them. Thats why they are called opinions. If someone has an opinion you don't agree with, theres no reason to get mad about it, they may not agree with your opinion either. Yeah we may pick on each other from time to time, but for the most part, its all in fun, and for the most part, the other person knows its just in fun, and is not offended by it. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, or call anyone out, I've just been noticing a few comments lately that are uncalled for. This is a great group of people, and you guys are the best friends a guy could ask for, and I don't want us to get away from that. If you look at all the other forums and clubs out there, you won't find any other club or forum that is as close as we are. If I have offended anyone, I apologies for that, but I felt this was something that needed to be addressed.:my2cents::myopinion:


Thanks,
Josh
 
Josh, just today I was sitting here thinking about posting something like this. But, I haven't been very active on the message board (due to some of what you have said) lately and felt like I should stay out of it. But, we need to remember not to let a select few keep us away from the hobby we love and the people we consider family. I think maybe some of us have a touch of cabin fever and once "Pro Car Season" gets started we will be better! You couldn't have said it better!
{group hug}:circle:
 
New Guy Here

I'm a new member at this site, and have spent the last week or so reading through many, many posts to get a feel for the community, and I have yet to see anything really mean or disrespectful. Sure, there have been a few things that I would consider "joshing", or the like, but that happens when friends get together. From online interactions on other sites, I can vouch that sometimes things are "misread" online that would be easily understood in real life, since there is no way to pick up on voice inflection or other queues. Emoticons can help, but are less than perfect. Anyway, just my 2 cents as a new guy.
 
Josh, there has been a lot of activity, and with that perhaps a subtle increase in the jabs, but I don't think the over all tone of the site has taken a turn. I normally would have started off with a classic quote from vintage SNL but I caused a stir with that once too!
 
Hey! A new Northland Member!

Out of the land of polar plunges and ice dams comes another professional car enthusiast! And being from Hilltop, you are very close to where much of the Northland Chapter action is (including our Mid-Winter Meet that will be held on Saturday, February 26.)

WELCOME!
 
I hadn't noticed anything out of line really, either. I've heard a few fun-jabs but nothing that I think would have offended anyone.

Of course, I can remember a time when it was far worse. And I'm glad those days are well behind us!
 
Again, I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, I've just ben noticing people seem to be getting a little defencive lately. I agree with LeeAnn, I beleave its semply just a case of cabin fever. Thank you everyone for your thoughts and comments.

Josh
 
The Problem

The problem is the weather. Those of us in the winter climates I think are full up and fed up with are never ending winter wonderland. It sucks!:argue: What we all need is to thaw out, start our engines, clean up our cars take a ride and chill out!
At least a nice 50 or 60 degree sunny day would do me wonders.
 
I would say that, what is meant as a "poke" is being taken too hard by some members. Maybe even taken the wrong way if there needs to be a note like this posted.

Since there actually is a post like this, it would be best if the "pokes" got toned down a little as we wouldn't ever want it to get out of hand or offend any member.


Take the SUCTION CUP situation for example...

This will likely never die.
It has been going on for almost 2 years now.
It comes up in so many threads and posts.
Maybe Ron and Steve would like it to die. Likely Steve more than Ron !

If something really offends you or you don't like to be razzed, let the person know so they stop. Post a reply in the thread with your request.


My feelings are the same as Josh's when it comes to the members of the PCS and this site... you're all like brothers and sisters to me ...and I'm proud to be a member of this club ...and have been since 1993 ...and I will until I take a ride in the back of one of my big black Cadillacs !


I say... TREAT PEOPLE HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO TREAT YOU !


Respect for all,
Darren
 
Ron Devies said:
The problem is the weather. Those of us in the winter climates I think are full up and fed up with are never ending winter wonderland. It sucks!:argue: What we all need is to thaw out, start our engines, clean up our cars take a ride and chill out!
At least a nice 50 or 60 degree sunny day would do me wonders.
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who needs 50 deg 25 was enough for me. I will say it was a cool ride but around the block we went
 

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Looks like it might be easier to convert it into a flower car than putting it back together as an ambulance... :poster_oops:
 
John ED Renstrom said:
who needs 50 deg 25 was enough for me. I will say it was a cool ride but around the block we went
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That takes the old saying "getting your doors blown off" to a new level or dimension! How bout we play some kind of forum game together like finish my sentence? If I were a rich man..................... And then somebody else finish's their version of the sentence. Or like ED "if pigs could fly, we would have to handing out umbrellas". Then the rule is you don't direct the answer at all towards another member in the form of an inssult and we will turn it into a social exercise seeing if we can be funny without offending anyone personally. Members vote a winner from all the posts before it gets ridiculous or Paul says enough you beat it to a pulp. Don't forget to keep it clean!
 
Michael Mykulak said:
That takes the old saying "getting your doors blown off" to a new level or dimension! How bout we play some kind of forum game together like finish my sentence? If I were a rich man..................... And then somebody else finish's their version of the sentence. Or like ED "if pigs could fly, we would have to handing out umbrellas". Then the rule is you don't direct the answer at all towards another member in the form of an inssult and we will turn it into a social exercise seeing if we can be funny without offending anyone personally. Members vote a winner from all the posts before it gets ridiculous or Paul says enough you beat it to a pulp. Don't forget to keep it clean!
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go ahead Mike you start the thread in the off topic slot. we have done this before and it will go along for quite a while.
 
I am starting the comedy challenge off to the area you suggested, Ed lets see what happens. I will call it "Social Exercise " and its over in "slightly off topic" I bet you Dwayne comes up with the funnys answer.
 
In regards to the "All" thread, I don't know if everyone realizes, but we "ALL" just participated inadvertently, in a social excercise already, dropping posts in the "Animal Humane Society" thread. What I observed is that we could not put aside for a minute our toys / hobby to perform a random act of kindness for what many members consider the love of their lives, and the survival of the lives of many unfortunate deserving companion animals. We turned the subject into something bordering on a somewhat of a devisive discusion. It is a disappointment to me that we were not able to do this random act of kindness in either the capacity of a group with or without the PCS having the groups name associated with the act or just an act that could of been an anonymous donation from a car club. We seem to not have the time, energy or desire to set aside our personal issues to even agree on a charity. A no kill shelter like the one they feature on Sundays called "Animal Rescue" features this shelter frequently and they are doing the right thing by my standards. Further I observed that the opinions became even more fragmented when you throw in the fact we have Canadian members and Australian members. My feelings are when you participate in a forum based out of a particular country of origin, you might want to honor the host country. Sure did not take long before the rules and bylaws started to get waved around like the guy from Barret Jackson auction house waving around the Data Plate either. Can we keep trying and see what we can accomplish on this issue as a group instead of further fragmenting the group by saying those of you that want to donate to a shelter should do so in your local communitys which further fragments our solidarity? I would be even more proud to be associated with a family that I could consider tolerant and unselfish putting your personal feelings aside for a cause. If there exists an issue with enough money to publish a PCS magazine, maybe it needs to be tweaked somehow to be more do-able whether the publication takes a pledge drive for its support, or budget cutting. I understand its the best magazine published for a car club. So maybe fewer color pictures or what ever. We are here for discussion the purpose of a Forum. When you multiply 25.00 dollars by 800 members you get 20,000.00 dollars. If I need some insight because I am a newbie let er rip! Or as Roy Rodgers would say "lets let er go boys" I am still working on being treated fairly, my issue. What is the operating budget going towards if my numbers are remotely correct? Handing off the discussion. Thanks! ladys and GENTLEMEN!
 
I think you're missing the bigger picture on the charity issue. A $20,000 donation to a charity would be a wonderful thing, but there are thousands of charities out there, and each person on here probably has their own #1 they would like to support. Personally, while I have a dog that I love like a child, I also have lost 3 family members to cancer and two to diabetes, so I might be more interested in supporting those causes before an animal shelter. It would be nice if we could all support all causes we wanted to equally, but I only bring in so much money a month and most of it goes to support ME.

A club-supported charity would be a noble venture, but there is just no way you would find just one that everybody would agree to support. That is why the powers that be won't support the issue. Charities are a personal choice, so you should just support the one you feel most worthy on your own.

As far as where your contribution goes, here is one possible example (I don't know the actual figures, so take it with a grain of salt): Supposing the club takes in $20,000, as you suggested. They publish a magazine 4 times a year, and if it costs $5,000 an issue to produce enough copies for all the paid members, well there's all your dues right there. That's a simple example, but it's probably not that far off. The specifics are available to members, all you have to do is ask if you want to see where your (the clubs) money is going.

Let's say the club has $2000 left over to do something with after all the bills are paid. Why should your animal shelter get that money as opposed to cancer research? That's just one example, and there are thousands to be made. Both are worthy causes, but there just is no diplomatic way to choose just one group to support.
 
I personally would love to see the PCS start their own car museum and fund it. The museum would purchase pro-cars, or have them donated, and get them restored opening this to the public. I'm sure there are many funeral homes that would donate funds for this project. :hide:

As far as charities, I honestly think it was a great idea but in looking at what Bill Wright and his wife do for animals in the Daytona Beach area, that is a charity that could use more support. The Wright's adopt many animals and bring them back to a social level having as many as 6 dogs in their house at a time.

I agree, there are so many charities just deciding which one to choose. Here in NSB the hotel donates more money to Habitat for Humanity than any other business and we could use more money here.

Not an easy thing to do and as one will see, there is not as much money left over as you would think. The reason the PCS has such a following is the quality of the magazine brought to you each quarter by devoted members like Brady Smith, Walt McCall, and so many others. It takes a lot of their time and their time is all donated.

The society members stepped up and helped a member last year with medical expenses so the team is here. Please keep this in mind, the PCS was not created to fund charities but to support and educate on the creation and preservation of Pro-Cars. We can be a stuffy bunch at times because we do not want to sacrifice the quality of the message we send.

This will probably tick a few off but if we can't say it here amoung friends then where can we say it.

Welcome to the bunch!!
 
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