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John ED Renstrom

John ED Renstrom

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interesting article in the locale paper today it was a reprint form the Sioux Falls paper. I'm telling you look out it's coming your way. they have discovered that it is illegal to sell gas with a lower Octane rating of 87 in the state but they have been selling 85 in the western half of the state for at least 20 years now. so now big oil has decided that 82 octane is OK take it or leave it. boy I'm glad my 60 willies will bun as low as 65 guess I had better get a top for it
http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012305290014&nclick_check=1
 
Since the 10 % ethenol fuel has made the scene, I have nothing that runs right or that does not have a service engine light on. This crap has screwed up every internal engine I have including mowers, generator, trimmers, pressure washer, cars, vans, trucks, hearses, limos, etc. It has destroyed fuel pumps, hoses. caused fittings to leak, and screwed up carbs, throttle bodies, you name it and its fouled it up. :14_6_12:
 
Luckily, we have many stations around here that have real gasoline. Most have large signs proclaiming "100% GASOLINE" or "NO ETHANOL." Those are the stations I buy from!

Your car, truck, motorcycle, chain saw, tractor, and lawn mower will appreciate the "good stuff."

Some stations offer a choice:
 

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rocky you are so right. my 2 4 wheelers were last run in february and i took them out of the garage yesterday with the intent of riding them. guess what varnished up. would not start. my blaster has a float so i simply cleaned the carb and it started up and ran fine but my 09 honda rancher has a diffrernt kind of carb that is beyond my expertice so off to the shop it goes. i run sea foam and stabalizer but it only helps some. i turn off the gas and run them dry with a little lucas in everything else and i still have fuel problems. BAD GAS. we have 93 octane here but it still doesnt provide a quality fuel. i put some 100 octane in my vette and monte carlo and still have problems. and its unleaded also but at 6.00 a gallon i cant do it on everything. guess we have to live with it. uncle sugar looking out for our best interests as i guess we are not capable of making decions about these things on our own. china pollutes more in one day than the usa does in a month but we have to save the planet for everybody else. and pay for it. im so happy that my hard earned tax dollars is going to protect the world. i sleep so much better at night knowing this...why is gas in china so cheap and the demand is tons less than ours, makes ya wonder dont it..
 
try to run a car on the 82 octane. still gets to me that they have a to big to follow the law attitude and elected officials let them. they came right out in there announcement as stating we don't sell enough gas in SD to bother with following your state law. take it or leave it. noticed the last time I went out 190 to the west cost that I had trouble finding 87 gas. now I know why. the price of regular has been dropping here but the premium gas has not moved off the 3.99. you want to cut your grass you have to use the 4 buck a gl to do it. but now just to drive my 2010 truck I have to blend the reguale and preamion at the pump myself. or use preamion only. it will burn the 10% fine I just woun't burn 82 octane under a load. GM says they woun't cover any damage to the engine if I use sub grade gas in it. big oil says we are only going to furnish subgrade then boost it up to still sub grad with ETOH. take it or don't. but the reality they get this cramed down us, your next. see teh pump Steve that 87 with 10% is 85 octane. they are all ready selling it to you. and how much of that so called 87 gas may be half a load of 85? if there is only one hose at that pump not three it's blended right there. you only think your getting what your payig for.
 
Gas

Every once in a while, and I wish it were more of a common occurrence in MN, I run into a station that has non oxygenated gas.....usually 92 or 93 octane. I luckily have a station a few miles away with it. I use it in my older motors, and all of my small engines. There is a noticeable difference when running it.......not just the price.
 
Up here in canada Premium gas is all they tell you to use in small engines now. at $1.30 a Litre ( almost $ 5.00 a gal) it gets expensive to cut the dam grass !
 
Don Wasley said:
John! You're kidding!? The cheapest gas I can find in and around the Denver suburbs is $3.67!! I guess I'm living in the wrong state....and then it might gum up something to boot! :cry:
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It was about that price a month or so ago, maybe it is comming to you you soon.
Ive NEVER had any gumming up issues. My 85 Superior has throttle body injection, with 180,000 and never had the injectors replaced.
My 91 M-M has well over 300,000 and never replaced them either. My carburated cars have been fine too.
 
John Royark JR said:
I always run the ethenol 10% 87 in everything I own, never had any troubles.
Also gas here is $3.28
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you got good gas in Iowa. it's the best I have put in on our run east. mileage always pops up on that tank and I usually go for the 89 10%at Evansdale. nothing wrong with 10% etoh in a late modale car. but they are cutting corners on the gas to start with you not going to be happy with the results.
starting out with 81 then trying to bring it up to 85 with etoh is not going to have a good outcome. 3000 ft is not high enough to but that cheap a gas. it almost jp5 range
 
I'm at 5000 ft above sea level and the cheap gas buns through my car and I have to refuel frequently. If I run out to the airport and use self serve I average about $5.00 a gallon but I can go about two and a half weeks on a tank. It makes a big difference and I run the 97 octane and the leaded is available also for my 49 Traveler.
 
John ED Renstrom said:
you got good gas in Iowa. it's the best I have put in on our run east. mileage always pops up on that tank and I usually go for the 89 10%at Evansdale. nothing wrong with 10% etoh in a late modale car. but they are cutting corners on the gas to start with you not going to be happy with the results.
starting out with 81 then trying to bring it up to 85 with etoh is not going to have a good outcome. 3000 ft is not high enough to but that cheap a gas. it almost jp5 range
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Evansdale is about 40-45 miles from me. As for running ethenol in late model cars, I have always run it in my old cars too, 87 with 10%, but ya 81-85 dont sound too good.
You are not the only one that told me Iowa has good gas, which I dont understand, it all comes from the same places.
 
I doubt if your getting it from billings or Casper. bet all yours comes up from the south and your right on the cut for the good stuff. we get ours from the west eastern Sd gets it from the eastern pipeline. at 900 ft they are not supposed to be getting any 85 octane. but as stated it may be that some has slipped threw. you start with a poor quality gas you end up with a poor quality product no matter what you color it with with a one hose pump you get from the blender to the nozel what ever the last guy had. no matter what you punch up. 1.5 inch pipe has how many ft to a gal about 2 I'm guessing. if it's 6 feet to the blender that 3 gl of something you did not want
 
I haven't had an issue with gumming up or performance problems with the ethanol. BUT... I have a 2000 Chevy Venture that the gas gauge is wonky on and I am told that it is because of the ethanol in the gas. It seems that since ethanol is an alcohol, it plays havoc with the plastic parts in the tank with the fuel gauge. It will read ok with half a tank or more, but once I get under half a tank, it will read full one minute and then empty the next minute and then half and then etc... I am told that the alcohol in the eats at certain plastic parts and makes it read inaccurate.
 
John Royark JR said:
It was about that price a month or so ago, maybe it is comming to you you soon.
Ive NEVER had any gumming up issues. My 85 Superior has throttle body injection, with 180,000 and never had the injectors replaced.
My 91 M-M has well over 300,000 and never replaced them either. My carburated cars have been fine too.
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I guess it just depends on what's in your local gas as to whether it gums things up or not, that goes for performance too.... :pat:
 
Charles E Snyder said:
I haven't had an issue with gumming up or performance problems with the ethanol. BUT... I have a 2000 Chevy Venture that the gas gauge is wonky on and I am told that it is because of the ethanol in the gas. It seems that since ethanol is an alcohol, it plays havoc with the plastic parts in the tank with the fuel gauge. It will read ok with half a tank or more, but once I get under half a tank, it will read full one minute and then empty the next minute and then half and then etc... I am told that the alcohol in the eats at certain plastic parts and makes it read inaccurate.
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I have not been told that ethanol affects that or not but being a car dealer I know that for years gm has had this problem with fuel guages. Certain gm vehicles from early 90's up till at least mid 2000's do this. I bet we have dozen on our lot doing same thing.
 
Ethanol solutions

We have up to 10% ethanol in most fuel in PA. I use this website: http://www.pure-gas.org/
and will drive 45 minutes to fill cans of pure gasoline for my older cars especially before winter storage. All my carbs need rebuilding after a year or two of running ethanol crap. Lucas has just released a product to counter the effects of the ethanol: seen here at autozone but widely available. I have just started using it but it will take time before I can tell if it makes a difference.

I wish some lawyers could start a class-action suit to prove that ethanol is harmful to most vehicles and force them to get it out, but I think a long term documented case-study then a suit in small claims court would be the way to go.
 
My car has developed a slight hesitation when accelerating, possible the accelerator pump. We do not have ethanol free gas here in RI. I use the highest octane available, and sea foam. I am now going to try the Lucas product.
 
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