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Dave Simon

We had a service going out today, loaded the coach, then tried to open the side doors to load flowers...the right side door latch apparently came detached from the rod in the door, and the door won't open.

It was bad enough that the flowers had to be loaded from the other side, but it's tough to get to the church truck when the door won't open...

The coach is a 2009 Eagle Ultimate...nice car, first time this has happened.

I seem to recall taht some of our older cars had inside handles in these doors, when did they stop doing that?
 
While talking to a PCS Member a few days ago, he was asking how difficult it would be to add inside handles to the side doors of a 1977 Miller Meteor. I told him that it would be quite easy if he has doors from a combination that have the handle hardware. I believe that the lock mechanism is the same, and that the only missing parts are the relay rod and handle assembly, along with a few clips. I guess that they didn't add the side door inside handles because the rear passenger wasn't going to have any need for them.
 
Paul, I'm sure you're right under normal circumstances, but in a case like this it would be neat to have a secondary way to open the door.
 
One of only two problems we've had with our 2007 Eagle Lincoln Ultimate Elite hearse is exactly what you encountered, Dave. We discovered the problem at the funeral home, but did need to use the coach for a service. We simply took a different church truck along in the lead car. I had the hearse to the body shop the next day after one call to Eagle. Eagle and the body shop took care of fixing the problem quickly with minimal down time of our coach.
 
my 75 has the handles on the inside but then again its older i would do like tony says and call them and let them know it broke and tell them to fix it
 
It's been a good car other than that, and the drivers prefer the Cadillac-based Ultimates to the Lincoln-based S&Ss that we also have.

We did grab another church truck and threw it in the trunk of the lead car...which had a low tire, on top of everything else.

It was one of those days where nothing horrible happened, things just didn't go smoothly.
 
Jonathon Fowers said:
my 75 has the handles on the inside but then again its older I.....
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Just went a looked at one of my 73 M-M parts cars that is a strait endloader and it to has interior door handles on the #2 rear doors but no window regulators.

Jeremy D. Ledford said:
My 77 M-M Landau Traditional Endloader does not have handles on the #2 doors. BTW, I'm not adding them eather!
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Neither does it have window regulators on the #2 doors nor does it have window regulators ether. It does have a interior door handle on the rear load door as well.
 
Dave Simon said:
We had a service going out today, loaded the coach, then tried to open the side doors to load flowers...the right side door latch apparently came detached from the rod in the door, and the door won't open.

It was bad enough that the flowers had to be loaded from the other side, but it's tough to get to the church truck when the door won't open...

The coach is a 2009 Eagle Ultimate...nice car, first time this has happened.

I seem to recall taht some of our older cars had inside handles in these doors, when did they stop doing that?
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My boss has a 01 Lincoln Superior and there are no handles but there are push rods simular to the old walk-in coolers on each of the rear doors.
 
There is nothing worse than a door that is stuck in the closed position and there is no way to open it. Personally, for what these vehicles cost I believe that all cars should have an opening devise to open the doors from the inside. I noticed on a Toyota that there was even a handle on the inside lid of the trunk to open it, in case someone should get locked in the trunk. I know of no safety regulation that requires this, however, common sense should prevail and all doors should have a way to open them from the inside. I can see the day when someone climbs into the rear of a coach to retrieve some flowers, and the wind blows the door closed, and the person is locked inside, hollering for someone to let him out. I am certain that will not go over very well with the mourners...
 
Paul....

Paul Steinberg said:
I noticed on a Toyota that there was even a handle on the inside lid of the trunk to open it, in case someone should get locked in the trunk. I know of no safety regulation that requires this
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From ConsumerReports.org:

Beginning in the 2002 model year, all cars began coming with a glow-in-the-dark release handle inside the trunk that allows people to escape from locked trunks. But many cars manufactured before that year still represent a risk.

Every year, some 10 to 20 people die trapped in a car trunk, estimates Janette Fennell, founder and president of Kids And Cars, a national nonprofit organization dedicated to reducing injury and death to children in or around motor vehicles. While many victims are kids playing hide-and-seek, many more are adults put in trunks in the course of a crime, says Fennell.

Now that interior release handles are mandatory, most of these incidents now happen in older cars, which aren't equipped with release handles. Only a few models, such as the Ford Taurus, had the handles before they were required.
 
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