I trust any and all pictures....

I assume any and all pictures posted on this PCS site are available to all members to be snagged for their files and used at will.

I know Mark Goodwin will be producing a fantastic DVD for members to purchase from the pictures of the 2011 Hudson meet.

Speak now or forever hold your peace. If it's on this site it is fair game or needs to be marked properly. But if you're going to mark your pictures and don't want them snagged then perhaps you shouldn't post them here in the first place!

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Just because someone posts a picture on a website, doesn't mean that it is in the public domain and that you have the right to use it without permission. For more information about this, I suggest that you read the "frequently asked questions" at the U.S. Copyright Website ( http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html ). Below is what I consider the pertinent information, however, there might be additional information that should be considered. If there are complaints by any of the copyright owners of the pictures, the person that has improperly used the copyright material may be subject to sanctions by the Website Administration Committee. Our official policy is that theft of copyright material is a violation of the Terms of Service. Whatever a website member does on their own is at their own risk and peril



Is it legal to download works from peer-to-peer networks and if not, what is the penalty for doing so?
Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.

Whether or not a particular work is being made available under the authority of the copyright owner is a question of fact. But since any original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium (including a computer file) is protected by federal copyright law upon creation, in the absence of clear information to the contrary, most works may be assumed to be protected by federal copyright law.

Since the files distributed over peer-to-peer networks are primarily copyrighted works, there is a risk of liability for downloading material from these networks. To avoid these risks, there are currently many "authorized" services on the Internet that allow consumers to purchase copyrighted works online, whether music, ebooks, or motion pictures. By purchasing works through authorized services, consumers can avoid the risks of infringement liability and can limit their exposure to other potential risks, e.g., viruses, unexpected material, or spyware.

For more information on this issue, see the Register of Copyrights' testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
 
I'm with Richard on this one.

Maybe there should be a note somewhere on this forum that says that any posted material is public and users are allowed to copy and use unless specified otherwise.

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I'm with Richard on this one.

Maybe there should be a note somewhere on this forum that says that any posted material is public and users are allowed to copy and use unless specified otherwise.

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Jean-Marc Dogas, I may agree with both you and Richard in that I would like every picture posted on our site to be public domain but unfortunately we can not override the copy-right laws.
 
Jean-Marc Dogas, I may agree with both you and Richard in that I would like every picture posted on our site to be public domain but unfortunately we can not override the copy-right laws.

Anyone one of my pictures taken by me, posted by me, or any other person is ok by me.

Have at it boys!

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Photo copyright

Any photo's I submit to the PCS page are welcomed to be used by any member. I give you my release. If you are going to use these for a commercial purpose please give me credit for my photo's. Thanks Kenn Evans II
 
What about pic's that are in one's photo's album within the forum but end up on flickr under someone else's name. without giving me credit for the photo
 
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Speaking now

I assume any and all pictures posted on this PCS site are available to all members to be snagged for their files and used at will.

Speak now or forever hold your peace. If it's on this site it is fair game or needs to be marked properly. But if you're going to mark your pictures and don't want them snagged then perhaps you shouldn't post them here in the first place!

You assume incorrectly, sir! Just because someone shares their work or collection with a group does not give group members carte blanche with the pictures. The photographer retains exclusive rights to his work, including the right to allow others to use it or not (under whatever conditions, such as credit given, that the photo owner dictates).

No one but the owner of a photo has the right - legal, moral, or ethical - to use his work "at will." (By "owner" I mean the person that either took or has legally obtained the rights to a photo, not someone that happens to have in their possession an image or print sent, traded, or given to them by another.)

Unofficially, I expect a little "right clicking" of my pictures into some members' personal collections for their own use. I take that as a compliment to either my photography or - more likely - the subject of the photo! The photos I post are usually of low enough resolution that if someone pirates them they won't reproduce well. However, if my work is posted anywhere else without authorization, even with credit given, it will be dealt with.

All website members should be encouraged to freely share their goodies with our group without fear of pirating. The more shared, the better the website...we want to see more old and unusual procars! Perhaps the WAC will consider "locking" the photos as has been done on other photo sites.
 
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If you post a photo on the internet, engines like google, go through websites and take those images and link them by description to their google images link.

Be careful what you want others to see if you post anything on a website anywhere including this site.

Anyone can login on this site and right click your photo and post it anywhere they want if it is in the General Discussion thread area.



Today I was entertaining in Burlington, ON... about 45 minutes from my place in Toronto. I was performing for a Reality Company BBQ.

They had a large sign made up with the details of the BBQ for all to see in the lobby of their building.

I happened to notice a picture of a friend of mine from Hull, QC on the sign.
He was unicycling in the photo.

I was there to unicycle, among other things, at that event. I guess someone googled unicyclist images and "USED" that photo. He would have never know it was there or got any credit for it.

This has happened at least 6 times lately with different friends I have that do similar things I do.

I have seen "USED" photos in mall March break posters, a Kingston ON attractions brochure and even in a book !


Just a note that photos are snatched and used often without any knowledge or credit to their owners.


Darren
 
The best defense of photo pirateing, short of slapping a large copywright notice/watermark across the center, is to publish them with low enough resolution that they look ok on a computer screen, but would not reproduce well otherwise, as Steve said. I won't go into detail, but any photo on the internet is able to be saved at the same resolution it is being viewed at, despite just about any copy protection put in place.

Also, without going into a lot of detail, copywright law provides that the copywright is retained by the original photographer, or anyone he/she has transferred ownership to. While it helps, a copywright stamp or notice DOES NOT need to appear on the image, so don't think just because it's not there means you can do whatever you want with it.

Most people are pretty lenient with their show pictures, but if they really wanted to make a case of it, they could. Hopefully noone will sue me after reading this because I've used some of their images to goof around with (Ed...).
 
just a long as no one is selling them I'm good with mine. like it is being said the screens shot at about 700x500 at 75 dpi makes it good to see but almost impossible to reproduce for any commercial purposes. but the same goes for me. any member of the PCS can have a copy for there personal use anything that I own and post or link to. if you want a larger file I have save them on the computer in that. Mark G you can do as you want with them. now people like Steve and Steve ,Tom and Walt have invested a lot of time and money in there collection. were I'm as guilty as anyone at scarfing a picture, we really need to respect things from people who share. that means keep them to our selves. if you need to use one to show a detailed crop it before you ask if some one has this part. that way it's a picture of the piece you need not the other mans shot. things like that will help a lot in keeping hard feelings down. permission to have is not permission to use for any thing. now had I found one of my pictures on that cake I would have felt OK with that, because it was for us. on one down town at a dart tournament I might get upset over.
 
I have been thinking about (pondering as Barb says) on this and have to say, I see a couple different points. I agreed with Richard, if I post one up here go ahead and have at it. That's because I'm a "hack" photographer, if I see something that catches my eye I just go ahead and shoot the damn picture. I don't fart around with lighting and staging and all that stuff. Point and shoot, that's me. Normally my pictures please me just fine!!

Now for the other side of this. After spending quite awhile Saturday morning in Hudson watching the photo line I've learned a lot. Those guys spent a lot of time getting every vehicle into just the perfect position, making sure that the car was shown in the best possible way. It didn't make any difference if it was the brightest, shiniest car there, or one in a very rough state. Every car received the same attention.

All of that being said, if I were a Steve Loftin, Walt McCall, Greg, or any of those other guys who take a lot of very good photos I'd probably get pretty protective of them as did Steve in his previous post. And there is that whole "legal thing" to be concerned about. Just my humble opinion.

BTW, here is on of the few photos I took at the meet. It was taken Friday night/Saturday morning as Barb and I were going to the hotel. I had a hard time taking it, the damn horses wouldn't hold still. Either that, or maybe those couple "adult beverages" we enjoyed were working on me. Anyway, here it is and it's one of those that's funny on about a hundred different levels.
 

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Any pictures I post on here, it is ok with me if someone wants to right click them. I will admit I am a big right clicker, but I only do it for my owne personal picture collection, and would never post or use someone elses picture or even a picture of someone elses car without there permission or knowledge, or giving credit to the person. I just hope other people will have the same respect with my pics.

Thanks for asking that last question Richard, I've ben wondering the same thing. There are a couple cars I didn't get a pic of.

Josh
 
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